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ShadowMindBear's avatar

High-status men don't have time for the self-destructive behavior of Omegas and Gammas or the solipsism/narcissism of Deltas. They are goal-oriented and leverage people to accomplish those goals. To an Alpha/Bravo, you are a tool, and they will replace you with a less problematic one if you become too troublesome or difficult to work with. Deltas can be managed with explicit directions on tasks within their wheelhouse, and Gammas can be reined in by a competent Bravo who knows how to redirect their destructive behavior towards accomplishing tasks that make them feel "Special" without being singularly essential to the goal's success.

Dealing with Omegas can be challenging, as their nature and motivations are a complete mystery to Alphas and Bravos. Omegas are so far outside the hierarchy that they are essentially non-persons, relegated to their dark corners where they perform specialized tasks for which others often take credit. Among the Omegas I've managed, their motivations generally revolved around interests outside of work. To motivate them, I ensured they had ample time to pursue those interests without the pressure of meeting my boss's demands, as long as they accomplished their assigned tasks. The results were mixed.

The importance in how you're viewed can help in forming relevant opinions and convictions about yourself. You are harder on yourselves than anyone else, and the truth is Alphas/Bravos don`t think about you.

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Determined Ω's avatar

Fascinating insight into how others see omega. Important to keep the reality of the situation in mind.

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Dave's avatar

"If you try to trick yourself with false positives, you will probably enter a GAMMA-like state of cognitive dissonance as your false beliefs are always on the verge of collapsing."

Yeah that's the perfect description to the trap of self-help books and seminars. They try to whip you up into a positivity-fervor where you just have to belieeeeeve in yourself and you will succeed. It might suck to pop a delusion and realize your true station but self-soothing with lies is walking back into that delusion.

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Determined Ω's avatar

There is definitely some good self help but it is never as simple as most of them claim. You must always start from honesty or else all of your energy will be spent fighting reality to keep your delusions alive.

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GYM GYM GYM GYM.

🌈YOU CAN DO IT.🌈

HERE IS YOUR OWN, PERSONAL SAFETY-ALLIGATOR: 🐊

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lurker12345's avatar

I've noticed that self-destructive thoughts come in two varieties:

-Against yourself: "I'm worthless, I should kill myself" (unless you're a tetraplegic with Alzheimer's, you should never think of killing yourself)

-Against others: "This person hurt/offended me, I must hurt them back" (either this person had no evil intent against you and you just interpreted his actions as evil, or in the few cases his intentions are actually evil, most of the time the way you think you'll hurt them back will only hurt yourself more)

Omegas tend to fall for the first, Gammas for the second.

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Schaefer Kosman's avatar

We can’t change the past but we can take steps toward a better tomorrow

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Determined Ω's avatar

Mindset is primary. If I were to take your advice and remain pessimistic but still try to succeed it would quickly destroy my morale and momentum.

Remember that in the same way it is hard for the average SSH profile to comprehend the experience of SIGMA it is also hard to comprehend the depths of OMEGA despair. The reality is most dysfunctional OMEGAs have a completely corrupted morale which is supported by identity-level convictions that were often foisted upon them by irresponsible parents, mentors, and caretakers. These convictions are in themselves a product of conditioning and often full presumptions, half truths, and all sorts of corrupting influences. When they become apart of your identity, they will absolutely turn every success into a failure and every failure into an even bigger failure. In other words, it is extremely difficult to actually experience success as a dysfunctional OMEGA even if you have objectively achieved it. It is a kind of mind blindness that will sap your motivation entirely.

Deciding to change this state of mind does not have to lead to GAMMA-like dishonesty. Instead, simply learn to recognize and focus on the positive. Eventually, the bad convictions will be replaced by new, honest ones that more accurately reflect your situation.

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Determined Ω's avatar

This gets into Mark Queppet's idea of the status narrative and how you define success. Taking no action is also a form of failure. Most OMEGAS are perpetually in such a state. You are correct that trying and embracing failure is important, but I am saying unless you have prepared your mind for it, it will be like kicking a crippled man down. Most OMEGAS will have very primitive emotional management so I write to that baseline first.

But your comment reminds me it is time to describe my situation and current successes and failures in more detail to the readers. It is hard to follow a journey when you do not know where the person is relative to their goals.

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SirHamster's avatar

Plan to fail is weird advice. What's the motivation for an Omega?

The reward has to be success, so it makes more logical sense to build the success bootstrap mindset. Those small risks and "fails" are successes.

Leaving the house. Showering regularly. Saying "hi" to a stranger. Exercising agency by choosing to go into a painful or awkward situation, braving discomfort on your terms rather than others'.

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Mile High Bear's avatar

Oh yes, agreed. For Despair is itself, a sin. I believe Vox Day has spoken in depth on this subject. I remember using what he opened my mind up to to then pull myself out of my own pathetic sanctimonious wallowing, like an adolescent rolling around on the bed in self-pity. Seeing my negative behavior that way made me realize what a stupid waste of time it really was, so as Ivan Throne likes to say, i just...got up and walked and willed my way out of it. Well, that and lots of prayer for strength. And you know what? It worked; and still does. Every time.

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lurker12345's avatar

This is more true than you think.

Movies always portray demons as having ominous and/or raspy voices when they possess someone, but what if the power of demons relied on the fact that they can speak to you in your own voice, and therefore pretend that their thoughts are actually yours?

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Sean O Rear's avatar

Devil literally means 'slanderer'.

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Andrew's avatar

There are certainly external influences which are sinister and desire your downfall. Modern America often turns a blind eye.

But don't go so far as to use that as an excuse. My sinful thoughts and desires are often just that--mine. I can't "game" the world. I am only in control of how I act/react.

Traditional Christianity would refer to this concept as our "sinful nature." The term "sanctification" was coined to describe progress in overcoming the various forms of temptation and aligning our thoughts, words, and deeds with the Good, the True, and the Beautiful.

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joehannes's avatar

Re-attributing negative thoughts or sinful desires to demons is not an excuse. It is an approach to make yourself aware of your free will and the influence spiritual beings have on you, i.e. a demon and an angel sitting on each side of your shoulders, whispering to you. It is your choice which side you listen to.

Our "sinful nature" is described in Genesis 3. It was the first time in history that man interacted with the devil, and he failed God immediately. Jesus, on the other hand, went through the desert for 40 days and 40 nights, without water and without food, and still resisted the devil three times.

Was the snake a part of Eve? Was it her own desire to taste the forbidden fruit?

Was Jesus tempting himself in the desert? Were thoughts like "make this stone into bread if you're God's son" his own?

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Andrew's avatar

Eve must have had some level of desire for the fruit, and Christ must have had some desire to turn the stone to bread, else the devil's temptations would not have been tempting. Eve (and Adam) failed, but Christ (the new Adam succeeded).

I agree there are direct demonic suggestions, oppression, and possessions. We need to resist the desires and weaknesses the demons prey on. I guess we're mostly in agreement, just using different words to describe the same thing.

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You are reading things into the Bible that aren't there. You should avoid doing that. It's the first step towards heresy.

Scripture is very clear on the facts that Eve was a dumb-dumb, and that she had no desire for the fruit until the snake started talking to her.

The same clarity is evident in the story about Jesus in the desert. Satan only emerged after it was said that Jesus was hungry (after 40 days and 40 nights without food), and then he suggested Jesus should just turn the stone to bread if he really was God's son.

Among other things, these two stories teach us that we must always be aware of our "wants" and "needs" and the "thoughts" that follow once we've encountered a certain want or need. F.e. I have no need to replace my current car, but I'm very well aware of my susceptibility to the whispers whenever I encounter the new version of my Mercedes model somewhere. So yes, the devil can tempt you by trying to satisfy existing wants or needs, but if you think that he cannot generate desires you are mistaken.

And yes, I agree that we basically talk about the same thing here. The difference is that you don't let go of your original statement "But don't go so far as to use that as an excuse. My sinful thoughts and desires are often just that--mine." It is not an excuse as I pointed out above, and If you have sinful thoughts or desires that you consider to be your own, then you've got some work to do brother.

"Heresy grows from idleness!"might be a Warhammer slogan, but it's true nonetheless.

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